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==Let's Keep it the Same==
===Merging Articles, Condensing Template Names, and Wiki Navigation bar===
From all articles from now on, can we please use the templates to keep the wiki the same. For more info see [[template]]. If we choose not to use a template, please let us know here so we can either improve on it, or delete it. --[[User:Matt 20 1|Matt 20 1]] 02:49, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
First, I believe [[Land and Water|Land]] and [[Land and Water|Land, Water, and Items]] should be [[Help:Administrators'_how-to_guide#Merging_page_histories|merged]] into one article.


Second, many templates have long names (e.g., [[Template:RollerCoaster Tycoon Rides & Attractions 2D]]). They could be condensed (e.g., '''RCT2 Rides''') to make typing easier.
:I agree, templates would help keep the pages consistent. The problem with that is most of the templates are tables. It's hard to put all of the information of a completed scenario page in the little boxes.


Finally, [[MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation]] could be improved. "Parkitekt" under "Other Games" is a non-existent article, and there is no link to the forums.<br />
:I think templates for big pages should be used for a quick summary, while the little details can be left in the main body of the article.
[[user:SLScool|SLScool]] ([[message wall:SLScool|message wall]]) 00:36, November 27, 2017 (UTC)
:--[[User:Ezporsche|Ezporsche]] 17:26, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


: Regarding first: agreed, I'll work on that. Regarding second: not sure many editors bother. You could, if you want make a new one with the short name, redirecting to the old one, if that's possible. But stay consistent in when naming. Third, Larry98 is working on a new front page, see [[Test]]. Parkitect should stay on the page even though there is no article yet, because of its similarity to the RCT franchise's games. Which forums do you mean? You could suggest that to Larry98.
I noticed that the wiki likes to cover the game's designers and other important people (ex. Chris Sawyer), do you think that one of you guys could create a real-life template? Like something for the top of the page, so people know its not in-game and about the real world and a box template for the pic and other info (ex. something like the scenario one). --[[User:I Ross I|I Ross I]] 18:27, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


: [[User:Bodoc Calado|Bodoc Calado]]
: I agree, templates can be used to summarise information, and put alot of the info in the article. And I'll get to work on the real-life template. Also, what do you think about the awards. yes/no? --[[User:Matt 20 1|Matt 20 1]] 01:02, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


::As to number one, '''Land, Water, and Items''' was supposed to be deleted, have '''Land''' moved to that name, and then have the article undeleted so that the histories could be merged (as explained in the link I provided). But, I assume you had a reason to not have done that, and I do not need to know unless you want to explain. As to number three, I was referring to what appears towards the top of all pages, below "RollerCoaster Tycoon" and next to the wiki logo, where there are dropdowns for "Games," "Lists," and the default "Explore." Also, I had thought you guys had a [[help:Forums|forums]], seeing as how there are some pages under the "Forum:" namespace (e.g., [[Forum:Forum Rules]], [[Forum:What are we all about?]]), but I assume they were discontinued. Somewhat-relatedly, do you plan to get [[Help:Discussions|Discussions]]? [[user:SLScool|SLScool]] ([[message wall:SLScool|message wall]]) 23:19, November 27, 2017 (UTC)
::I think the awards are good, if we can get more people here, then it might be some kind of incentive to work hard, or at least just a token of our appreciation. --[[User:Ezporsche|Ezporsche]] 04:55, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
===Background Images and [[RollerCoaster Tycoon Wiki:WikiTroll#Offenders|WikiTroll Offender List]]===
It could be fun to add custom backgrounds to articles. It would not only add artistic variety to the wiki, but choosing which image to put in the background could lead to some friendly competition to get the best picture.


I am new here, so I may be blind to a reason for it, but I believe the WikiTroll offender list should be deleted. It is important to never feed trolls&mdash;FANDOM has [[Help:Don't feed the trolls|a help article]] on that&mdash;and the list does just that.[[user:SLScool|SLScool]] ([[message wall:SLScool|message wall]]) 18:19, November 24, 2017 (UTC)
::The awards are excellent, really well put together. I love how you incorpated the games awards/pics into ours. I can think of no better way to improve them. =) Although, some editors worry that new people will begin to edit just for the awards and not really for the right reasons. I can't remember if you made any awards for a certain number of edits but try to steer clear of that. --[[User:I Ross I|I Ross I]] 17:17, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


Regarding the troll page: We inherited the list from the sysops before Larry98's adoption of the wiki. The page was created in the very first days of the wiki, so it may be obsolete. I personally find it quite useful for admins to have an editable overview over past blocked users. However, I read the article you linked. So far, I don't know about users that felt encouraged to troll after being featured on the list. Also, there are very few trolls at all on this wiki over time. Besides that, a notable, curious thing is that there is a special page on every wiki that is similar to [[RollerCoaster Tycoon Wiki:WikiTroll|our WikiTroll page]]: [//rct.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Log/block http://rct.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Log/block]
:::Oh, the Tycoonist awards was what I was thinking about. Just make sure to define a major contribution clearly, this way people will understand. In fact, you should probably do that for all of them. --[[User:I Ross I|I Ross I]] 17:21, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


:So, I think we can leave the troll page there for now. Deleting it will probably bring no benefit as there is the other automated site. What we could do is removing the link from the wiki's front page so it is less obvious such a list exist. Besides from that, the most effective measure against trolls should be a strict ban policy. The existance of a troll list seems rather not relevant to me. What do all you think? [[user:Bodoc_Calado|Bodoc Calado]]
About the ride templates again, I decided to kind of make a color coded system. I changed the background color of the template based on the type. This is what I've been doing:
*Roller coasters = Red
*Thrill rides = Orange
*Gentle Rides and Transport Rides = Green
*Water Rides = Blue


::And your opinion on custom page backgrounds? They are achievable by adding a piece of code to [[MediaWiki:Wikia.css]]. An example for [[Vanilla Hills]] would be:
When making ride pages, could everyone do this too?
::


<pre>body.page-Vanilla_Hills{
--[[User:Ezporsche|Ezporsche]] 22:42, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
background: #000000 url(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/rct/images/8/8f/Vanilla_Hills_Overview.png/revision/latest?cb=20100119020028) 0 0 no-repeat;
background-position: center top;
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-attachment: fixed;
background-size:cover;
}</pre>
An example of the per-page background stuff in action can be found at [http://subnautica.wikia.com Subnautica wiki].<br />[[user:SLScool|SLScool]] ([[message wall:SLScool|message wall]]) 23:42, November 24, 2017 (UTC)


:::I see ''Larry98'' has started that. I would like to note, however, that it needs to be "body.page-Vanilla_Hills"&mdash;the system says the "body" part is unnecessary, but it is necessary for these backgrounds for whatever reason.[[user:SLScool|SLScool]] ([[message wall:SLScool|message wall]]) 01:38, November 26, 2017 (UTC)


::::Yes I tried to do it, but it not works. Can you please help me. I even completly copied the complete MediawikiCss but it also didn't work. So I changed it back to the one we had earlier. There has to be another page which controls it. --[[User:Larry98|Larry98]] ([[User talk:Larry98|talk]]) 11:13, November 26, 2017 (UTC)
What is the basis for determining the "Size" of a ride, as found in the ride template? [[User:Rps eagleforChrist|Rps eagleforChrist]] 20:39, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::[[Special:ThemeDesigner]] is the only one I can currently think of. Under "customize," make sure the background graphic is set to be tiled. In the meantime, I will try to figure out what else could be causing the fault.[[user:SLScool|SLScool]] ([[message wall:SLScool|message wall]]) 16:28, November 26, 2017 (UTC)
::::::Well, now it works. I suppose this post is all resolved now unless you have thoughts on the WikiTroll offender list.[[user:SLScool|SLScool]] ([[message wall:SLScool|message wall]]) 19:25, November 26, 2017 (UTC)


:I can't specify exactly what constitutes as a small/medium/large ride, but I think that small rides would be one of the ploppable gentle/thrill rides, medium would be a rather compact tracked ride, like a wild mouse coaster or a shuttle loop, and a large ride would be a sprawling coaster that takes a vast amount of space to build, or a transport ride that traverses a large park. --[[User:Ezporsche|Ezporsche]] 20:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


=== Hello! ===
::the inital idea of 'size' was to state how many squares it occupies (whe applicable), eg. 3x3, or 4x4, etc. And I really like the colour coding idea--[[User:Matt 20 1|Matt 20 1]] 05:51, September 11, 2009 (UTC)
I apologise for my VERY long absence from the Wiki, but I wanna try and be a regular contributor again. Rather than just jump in, I thought I'd ask if there's any projects we're working on atm or any particular articles we're concentrating on that you need help with? If not, I'll just start looking around for where I'm needed.
Cheers.--[[User:Matt_20_1|<b style="color:#FA0">Matt_20_1</b>]]<sup>([[User talk:Matt_20_1|<b style="color:#8DD623">talk</b>]])</sup> 14:43, February 24, 2018 (UTC)


No need to apologise. Well, there is no active project at the moment, I suppose. But Larry98 and/or I, we plan to re-activate the [//rct.wikia.com/wiki/RollerCoaster_Tycoon:Projects http://rct.wikia.com/wiki/RollerCoaster_Tycoon:Projects] page and organise the most neccessary work sometime in the future. Larry98 also is about changing and standardising the rideboxes and redesigning the front page. Things I find to be done soon are completing the RCT3 rides list with the missing articles (but with filled out table and using the article structure of RCT2 articles) and incorporating RCT World content into the wiki. But, as Larry98 and I haven't assessed areas needing progress yet, you are absolutely welcome to find further topics which need work/improvement by yourself. [[User:Bodoc Calado|Bodoc Calado]] ([[User talk:Bodoc Calado|talk]]) 12:05, February 25, 2018 (UTC)
==Popularity==


==Scenario Pages==
I think it's safe to say that we have a very low-traffic wiki right now. We need to find a way to get more people to our site. There's a helpful article about raising your Google ranking at [http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Advice:Raising_your_wiki's_Google_ranking Wikia Help].
What are our thoughts/conventions on the current state of our scenario pages? I've noticed some are a little incomplete in a few places and so I want to go ahead and fix them up but before I jump in want to clarify some things (in no particular order of importance).


I've noticed some make mention of recreations done in RCT3 by (as far as I can tell) fans (i.e. they are not official released versions) and was wondering if it was okay for me to delete this information from the pages? I've also seen we have entries for user made expansions for RCT2 (eg. the UCES), to the extent that we have scenario pages for these fan made ones. Not to discredit all the hard work that went into making them, but I personally don't think the belong here and that we should focus solely on what is official (after all, where do you draw the line, as there are a billion and one different fan made scenarios/assets for the game out there). Again, that's just personal preference but I'm curious to hear what the consensus is.
I've already submitted the site to Google for indexing, and I'm going to start discreetly adding links and content that point to us on other related wikis.
--[[User:Ezporsche|Ezporsche]] 17:26, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


I've also noticed some entries have pictures of the scenarios completed, which itself I'm not against but I feel doesn't really belong. I'm thinking of moving them to the scenario guide sub-pages if no one has any objections? On the topic of scenario guides, while some are really helpful, others are severely lacking and I was wondering if we had a protocol or anything for updating them? I know by their very nature there is more than one way to complete a scenario, but is it alright if I re-write some of the poorly done ones?
:I did a Google search for Roller Coaster Tycoon, and I couldn't find this wiki in the first five pages. I think we can all agree that we should get it up on the first few pages of returns, if possible, but I myself don't know how to do that. [[User:Rps eagleforChrist|Rps eagleforChrist]] 02:16, September 10, 2009 (UTC)


One more thing, I attempted to streamline the [[The Complete Scenery List]] and as part of that process I used collapsible boxes. Of course this is a solely antithetical thing, but I was wondering what you guys thought? Would you mind if I did this on scenario pages in a similar way, or prefer if I left it alone?
:I think that is a great idea, I did the same for another wiki, if you can follow that guide, you will find that it works. Just have to give it time. --[[User:I Ross I|I Ross I]] 17:49, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


Sorry guys, I know there's a lot of questions in there, but I don't wanna go and mess around with things before getting some input. Cheers- [[User:Matt_20_1|<b style="color:#FA0">Matt_20_1</b>]]<sup>([[User talk:Matt_20_1|<b style="color:#8DD623">talk</b>]])</sup> 13:12, March 2, 2018 (UTC)
:Oh, just wanted to add, I had submitted our wiki as an external link on all related Wikipedia pages. So, if people are looking all the way down there they will see us. --[[User:I Ross I|I Ross I]] 17:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


==Limiting what pages the Random Page button can use?==
::I advertised the page quite nicely on my blog, hopefully some of my friends will join. I've also sifted through various gaming wikis, and added a few links to us. --[[User:Ezporsche|Ezporsche]] 05:23, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I think that the Random Page button shouldn’t bring up more personal pages on the wiki, like talk pages and user profiles, since they aren’t actual articles. Is there any way where we can make pages like this exempt from what pages it can use?[[User:Ho-tee|Ho-tee]] ([[User talk:Ho-tee|talk]]) 00:32, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

==Hit counter==

I've tried to add a good hit counter to our front page. It's from [http://whos.amung.us/ http://whos.amung.us/], and it's good because you don't need an account, anyone can view it, and very detailed data can be displayed if you click on it.

There's two versions of it, a Javascript and an html version, but the html doesn't work. It would be great if someone could get it to work. The code can be found at their site.
--[[User:Ezporsche|Ezporsche]] 05:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

==Getting info from fan sites==

RollerCoaster Tycoon is pretty old, and a lot of the fan sites are inactive/defunct. I think we should talk with the creators of the particularly information-rich sites, and see if we could take their articles and transplant them into our site. That way, people can look everything up by going here.

I was originally thinking of creating references, like on Wikipedia, but there is a lot of content on other sites that are very specific, and wouldn't fit well in the broad topics that we currently cover.

Does anyone else agree? --[[User:Ezporsche|Ezporsche]] 19:08, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

*As much as I like the idea, I predict it will be pretty hard to contact the site creators, since the sites have been abandoned and they probably have old contact information. It's worth a try though. [[User:Chozo01|Chozo01]] 20:09, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


==New Categories==

Should there be a category defined for all the scenario pages, like "Scenarios"? [[User:Rps eagleforChrist|Rps eagleforChrist]] 00:54, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
:I think so, yes. Though it may not be necessary as we have [[The Complete Scenario List]]. [[User:Chozo01|Chozo01]] 16:01, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
:If there isn't a "Scenarios" category (but I think there should be), then each scenario page should consistently link back to [[The Complete Scenario List]] page.
[[User:Rps eagleforChrist|Rps eagleforChrist]] 02:02, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

==Monthly Poll==

Do we have plans to change the "monthly" poll tomorrow? [[User:Rps eagleforChrist|Rps eagleforChrist]] 14:48, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

== [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]]/ [[MediaWiki:Anonnotice]] ==
Hey, I just noticed that we don't make use of the sitenotice. For those that don't know, the job of the sitenotice is to alert users of wiki news and other important things to remember. The sitenotice is the space located between the tool bar (edit this page, history, etc.) and the article title. There are two site notices: A user (logged in) and an IP (logged out). The IP one is typically used to encourage anons to join the wiki by creating an account. Only admins can change the sitenotices. I really think we should take advantage of this great feature. --[[User:I Ross I|I Ross I]] 18:53, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

:I just was looking for them, and I found out they were both deleted for the reason "No longer needed". I am going to restore them so that we can use them. I am going to go ahead and add information to the Anonnotice. We can edit it to our needs later, just remember to change the MediaWiki:Sitenotice ID if you change the user one (logged in), the Anon doesn't have one. --[[User:I Ross I|I Ross I]] 19:01, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

== Cheating? ==
I'm sure this wiki has had this discussion before but I want to bring it up anyway. Should we post cheat codes on the wiki and where should we place them? I think we should make a policy on this. What do you guys think? --[[User:I Ross I|I Ross I]] 21:48, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

:I think that cheats and like information should be here. As a matter of fact, some cheats are already posted. Search for cheats. [[User:Rps eagleforChrist|Rps eagleforChrist]] 21:56, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

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Merging Articles, Condensing Template Names, and Wiki Navigation bar

First, I believe Land and Land, Water, and Items should be merged into one article.

Second, many templates have long names (e.g., Template:RollerCoaster Tycoon Rides & Attractions 2D). They could be condensed (e.g., RCT2 Rides) to make typing easier.

Finally, MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation could be improved. "Parkitekt" under "Other Games" is a non-existent article, and there is no link to the forums.
SLScool (message wall) 00:36, November 27, 2017 (UTC)

Regarding first: agreed, I'll work on that. Regarding second: not sure many editors bother. You could, if you want make a new one with the short name, redirecting to the old one, if that's possible. But stay consistent in when naming. Third, Larry98 is working on a new front page, see Test. Parkitect should stay on the page even though there is no article yet, because of its similarity to the RCT franchise's games. Which forums do you mean? You could suggest that to Larry98.
Bodoc Calado
As to number one, Land, Water, and Items was supposed to be deleted, have Land moved to that name, and then have the article undeleted so that the histories could be merged (as explained in the link I provided). But, I assume you had a reason to not have done that, and I do not need to know unless you want to explain. As to number three, I was referring to what appears towards the top of all pages, below "RollerCoaster Tycoon" and next to the wiki logo, where there are dropdowns for "Games," "Lists," and the default "Explore." Also, I had thought you guys had a forums, seeing as how there are some pages under the "Forum:" namespace (e.g., Forum:Forum Rules, Forum:What are we all about?), but I assume they were discontinued. Somewhat-relatedly, do you plan to get Discussions? SLScool (message wall) 23:19, November 27, 2017 (UTC)

Background Images and WikiTroll Offender List

It could be fun to add custom backgrounds to articles. It would not only add artistic variety to the wiki, but choosing which image to put in the background could lead to some friendly competition to get the best picture.

I am new here, so I may be blind to a reason for it, but I believe the WikiTroll offender list should be deleted. It is important to never feed trolls—FANDOM has a help article on that—and the list does just that.SLScool (message wall) 18:19, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the troll page: We inherited the list from the sysops before Larry98's adoption of the wiki. The page was created in the very first days of the wiki, so it may be obsolete. I personally find it quite useful for admins to have an editable overview over past blocked users. However, I read the article you linked. So far, I don't know about users that felt encouraged to troll after being featured on the list. Also, there are very few trolls at all on this wiki over time. Besides that, a notable, curious thing is that there is a special page on every wiki that is similar to our WikiTroll page: http://rct.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Log/block

So, I think we can leave the troll page there for now. Deleting it will probably bring no benefit as there is the other automated site. What we could do is removing the link from the wiki's front page so it is less obvious such a list exist. Besides from that, the most effective measure against trolls should be a strict ban policy. The existance of a troll list seems rather not relevant to me. What do all you think? Bodoc Calado
And your opinion on custom page backgrounds? They are achievable by adding a piece of code to MediaWiki:Wikia.css. An example for Vanilla Hills would be:
body.page-Vanilla_Hills{
    background: #000000 url(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/rct/images/8/8f/Vanilla_Hills_Overview.png/revision/latest?cb=20100119020028) 0 0 no-repeat;
    background-position: center top;
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-attachment: fixed;
    background-size:cover;
    }

An example of the per-page background stuff in action can be found at Subnautica wiki.
SLScool (message wall) 23:42, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

I see Larry98 has started that. I would like to note, however, that it needs to be "body.page-Vanilla_Hills"—the system says the "body" part is unnecessary, but it is necessary for these backgrounds for whatever reason.SLScool (message wall) 01:38, November 26, 2017 (UTC)
Yes I tried to do it, but it not works. Can you please help me. I even completly copied the complete MediawikiCss but it also didn't work. So I changed it back to the one we had earlier. There has to be another page which controls it. --Larry98 (talk) 11:13, November 26, 2017 (UTC)
Special:ThemeDesigner is the only one I can currently think of. Under "customize," make sure the background graphic is set to be tiled. In the meantime, I will try to figure out what else could be causing the fault.SLScool (message wall) 16:28, November 26, 2017 (UTC)
Well, now it works. I suppose this post is all resolved now unless you have thoughts on the WikiTroll offender list.SLScool (message wall) 19:25, November 26, 2017 (UTC)


Hello!

I apologise for my VERY long absence from the Wiki, but I wanna try and be a regular contributor again. Rather than just jump in, I thought I'd ask if there's any projects we're working on atm or any particular articles we're concentrating on that you need help with? If not, I'll just start looking around for where I'm needed. Cheers.--Matt_20_1(talk) 14:43, February 24, 2018 (UTC)

No need to apologise. Well, there is no active project at the moment, I suppose. But Larry98 and/or I, we plan to re-activate the http://rct.wikia.com/wiki/RollerCoaster_Tycoon:Projects page and organise the most neccessary work sometime in the future. Larry98 also is about changing and standardising the rideboxes and redesigning the front page. Things I find to be done soon are completing the RCT3 rides list with the missing articles (but with filled out table and using the article structure of RCT2 articles) and incorporating RCT World content into the wiki. But, as Larry98 and I haven't assessed areas needing progress yet, you are absolutely welcome to find further topics which need work/improvement by yourself. Bodoc Calado (talk) 12:05, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

Scenario Pages

What are our thoughts/conventions on the current state of our scenario pages? I've noticed some are a little incomplete in a few places and so I want to go ahead and fix them up but before I jump in want to clarify some things (in no particular order of importance).

I've noticed some make mention of recreations done in RCT3 by (as far as I can tell) fans (i.e. they are not official released versions) and was wondering if it was okay for me to delete this information from the pages? I've also seen we have entries for user made expansions for RCT2 (eg. the UCES), to the extent that we have scenario pages for these fan made ones. Not to discredit all the hard work that went into making them, but I personally don't think the belong here and that we should focus solely on what is official (after all, where do you draw the line, as there are a billion and one different fan made scenarios/assets for the game out there). Again, that's just personal preference but I'm curious to hear what the consensus is.

I've also noticed some entries have pictures of the scenarios completed, which itself I'm not against but I feel doesn't really belong. I'm thinking of moving them to the scenario guide sub-pages if no one has any objections? On the topic of scenario guides, while some are really helpful, others are severely lacking and I was wondering if we had a protocol or anything for updating them? I know by their very nature there is more than one way to complete a scenario, but is it alright if I re-write some of the poorly done ones?

One more thing, I attempted to streamline the The Complete Scenery List and as part of that process I used collapsible boxes. Of course this is a solely antithetical thing, but I was wondering what you guys thought? Would you mind if I did this on scenario pages in a similar way, or prefer if I left it alone?

Sorry guys, I know there's a lot of questions in there, but I don't wanna go and mess around with things before getting some input. Cheers- Matt_20_1(talk) 13:12, March 2, 2018 (UTC)

Limiting what pages the Random Page button can use?

I think that the Random Page button shouldn’t bring up more personal pages on the wiki, like talk pages and user profiles, since they aren’t actual articles. Is there any way where we can make pages like this exempt from what pages it can use?Ho-tee (talk) 00:32, 7 April 2023 (UTC)